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How Many Times Do I Have To Repeat The Same Thing – Real Estate Investing Problems

This saga doesn’t end! Just when you think I will get the final answer from the HOA and be able to know why they think they have the authority to do what they are doing, I get nothing. No response to the questions I have. No validation on why they think they can do what they are doing. Nothing. This is continuing to heat up. The funny thing is this. They think they can just kick the can down the road and I am just going to go away. Nope. Not in my blood. This is a real estate investment property for me. I have no plans of going away any time soon. So here we go! Let the saga continue!

Get caught up on everything that has happened to this point! This has been a wild journey to say the least and it is definitely not over! Below are the links to all the craziness in this saga!

Over 24 Hours Later…Following Up Again

The fact I have to continue following up with this HOA is very frustrating. I have to ask more specific questions and be extremely clear just so I can get the response to what I want them to specifically answer. If I don’t, I end up having to wait 48 hours for a response.

So time for another follow-up email to the HOA:

Following up on this email again as I have yet to hear a response and called this morning with no response back after I was told I would receive a call back shortly. I would like to rent my place long term.

Renter information:
Father, mother and 12 year old son.
Duration of lease:
6 months
Information about tenants:
Snowbirds who have been in Orlando for over 3 months and don’t plan to currently go back to their home due to COVID-19 outbreak in tristate area.
Questions below:
  • What other information would I need to provide for approval?
  • They would like to move in ASAP. Once approved, when would the earliest they can move in be?
Thanks for your time, I look forward to hearing from you soon regarding this important and very time sensitive matter. 
I have now given the HOA everything they could possibly need to approve or reject these guests from coming. Now time to wait, even longer, to get a response.
Time To Really Laugh At Their Response
Before I just demolish this response below, let’s be fair. This HOA/Board, I am sure, thinks they are doing the right thing. I would be amazed if they actually thought they weren’t doing the right thing. This response below is just comical at this point though.

Good Afternoon,

Firstly, the Governor of Florida late last night extended the ban on new vacation rentals with EO 20-103. This ban is now through the end of April.

We not too long ago issued a notice.

Regarding the rental request for 6 months. Normally, the information below would be enough for a decision. But with the ban now extended we will deny entry to all new guests.

I will send over your request to the board.

Again, continuing to have a common theme here. No answers to the questions I have asked. Or continuing to defer the answer to these questions. Really really disappointing to see, but I am honestly not surprised based off everything that has been going on.

Now time to wait again.

2 Hours Later, Here Is There Pathetic Response

Two hours later, they finally get back with an actual response. And boy is it pathetic.

Hi YRB33,

I sent over your request below to the board for approval. Unfortunately, the board has denied your request below.

Thanks and stay safe.

Again, not surprising. No reasoning on why they are denying my request. Just stating the request has been denied and nothing more.

I continue to want them to dig an even bigger rabbit hole for themselves. For that reason, I am not done continuing to follow up with them via email. Documented communication is the best for of communication for fighting things in the future.

My Response, Simple Yet Effective

Now time for my response. Keeping it simple and effective:

Can I please have an explanation from the board as to specifically why the request is being denied?

I didn’t want to overcomplicate things for them. They have clearly shown they don’t handle communication well.

Here is why I asked the question I did.

First, it is simple and to the point. There is no reason to over complicate things for these idiots. Too harsh? Sorry not sorry.

Second, I read back through the HOA Bylaws. The document clearly states if there is any time the HOA denies a request for long term rental, they must provide a detailed explanation of how to get the rental to be compliant. Here is the excerpt from the Bylaws:

In the event the lease is disapproved, the Board shall notify the Owner of the requisite action to be taken in order to bring the lease into compliance with the Declaration and any rules and regulations adopted pursuant thereto. If the Board does not provide an approval or disapproval within the time period set forth above, such lease shall be deemed approved.

This clearly states they need to provide more details than a simple denial. I wish I didn’t spend an hour reading through the Bylaw documents to find this, but sometimes you just want to educate yourself.

Kind of like this HOA/Board needs to educate themselves on what they have the authority to and not to do.

More Time Passing By And Gone Forever

I continue trying to keep my head up and not get frustrated. The longer they continue delaying this, the longer they are causing damages to myself.

It has now been 36 hours since my last follow up email to the board and HOA. Now time, for a follow-up on the follow-up. No reason to stop till I get a legitimate answer.

Here is the follow-up to the follow-up:

A response to the above would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if you can clearly state where in the Declaration and/or Bylaws it states the HOA/Board having the authority to not allow me to rent my place long term, it would be greatly appreciated.
Specifically, if you could call out the document section and excerpt that allows this action by the HOA & Board.
Thanks for your time, I look forward to hearing from you soon regarding this very important and time sensitive matter.
I know what you might be asking at this point. No, no, no. I don’t sign my emails with YRB ahah.
I put my actual name. Maybe Arthur, Ken, or Bob as @eoab__ calls me 🙂
Now time for more sit back and wait time. I wish this story would end, but the amount of email communication has been interesting. If they were to answer the actual questions I am asking, this would all be over. But since they have yet to answer my questions, I will continue pushing on this!
Now time to sit back and wait for their next response. Hopefully the next response isn’t another 48 hours away!

If you aren’t already, don’t forget to follow me on Instagram!

Thanks again for all the support and continuing to come back each day for new updates in this saga!

Want to checkout the latest on the saga with Ol’ Faithful, click the link below!

Ol’ Faithful HOA Saga – Final Path Forward With HOA Dispute


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